When the Bible fulfills prophecy – is that the end of it?

Many in the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements claim that Joel’s “Latter Rain” is a present day reality beginning in the 1950’s. Others, of a Post-Tribulation Rapture persuasion, believe is is still to come and that the present day events touted as “Latter Rain” events are false and carnally driven.

I happen to agree with the portion of the Post-Trib view that this “Holy Laughter” and “Latter Rain” are false works of Satan and deceiving spirits.

What I don’t agree with is that Joel’s prphecy is in any way a future event. Why? Because, if you read what the Apostle Peter preached on the Day of Pentecost referring to Jeol’s prophecy:

“…This is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel: `AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,’ God says, `THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS; EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT And they shall prophesy. `AND I WILL GRANT WONDERS IN THE SKY ABOVE AND SIGNS ON THE EARTH BELOW, BLOOD, AND FIRE, AND VAPOR OF SMOKE. `THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD, BEFORE THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY OF THE LORD SHALL COME. `AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.’ ” (Acts 2:16-21 NASB)

Was Peter wrong? Can he have been mistaken? Or do we forget what Jesus told him and the other disciples concerning the Holy Spirit: “ But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. ” (John 14:26 NASB)
Will God repeat this miracle again? Or a similar one?

I don’t know, but I do know that the church will be judged first in the days of tribulation which lie ahead and in which “Unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.” I think the foolish virgins are the western churches who think they are rich because of their influence, their mega churches, their financial might, their political agendas and harlotry. The elect are promised they will escape God’s wrath; not tribulation! Remember the disciples asked not only about the destruction of the Temple, but the end of the world.

See to it that no one misleads you. “For many will come in My name, saying, `I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. “You will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes. “But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

“Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. “At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. “Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. “Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold. “But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:7-14 NASB)

The false doctrine of Pre-Tribulation Rapture is false and leaves many of you thinking you will escape the trial of your faith falsely referred to as God’s wrath. God’s wrath is typified by destruction of the wicked, not political unrest, martyrdom of believers, and the threshing out of the wheat from the tares. No, the church will be shaken so that what is grounded in true faith will be all that remain: “And His voice shook the earth then, but now He has promised, saying, “YET ONCE MORE I WILL SHAKE NOT ONLY THE EARTH, BUT ALSO THE HEAVEN.” This expression, “Yet once more,” denotes the removing of those things which can be shaken, as of created things, so that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.” (Hebrews 12:27 NASB)

Read the rest of what Christ said about the tribulation to come: “But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.”

There is only one “Day of His appearing”. The Bible does not teach that with thousands of believers being tortured and persecuted to death in many countries every day that somehow the “easy living” church of the western world (USA) will get off completely “scott free”. You do not know your Bible or believe that God has to purifiy us before He is finished with us.

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4 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by memnan on November 13, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Luke 21:34-36

    34 “But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. 35 For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy[c] to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

  2. Posted by endtimedisciples on November 14, 2008 at 12:07 am

    You make some very pertinent points that many people need to have their eyes opened to.

    I’d like to address one point though.

    You said, “I think the foolish virgins are the western churches who think they are rich because of their influence, their mega churches, their financial might, their political agendas and harlotry.”

    As someone who has been to different parts of the world, and related with other peoples, I’d like to say that apathy, foolish contentment, and the pursuit of the things of this life are NOT restricted to just western believers. Much of the same garbage goes on amongst believers in many parts of the world.

    Yes, in many places things are different. I can’t deny that, but we should remember that the Protestant Churches, all over the world, are basically the “children” of the mother, western Church.

  3. I certainly couldn’t argue with you, it being 25 years since I was abroad. I am aware that the “prosperity gospel” has made serious inroads into Africa. People are people wherever they are. But, American “Christianity” is so grossly perverted and materialistic that they seem to be the more obvious example of the Laodicean spirit.

    Thanks for your input Gene!

  4. Nancy,

    You obviously disagree with me about the rapture based on that scripture. I believe we will escape God’s wrath, but it will be after the tribulation testing when God sifts the church.

    Thanks for your input! And throw Mr.Chuckers a few extra kernels for me!

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